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Posted 12:13 AM 2/20/2011

radiobath said:
Says the guy in high school. I bet you believe everything Loose Change told you
I don't believe the facts presented in Loose Change simply because they were presented in a convincing manner, I believe them because I have come to all the same conclusions myself about the information out there. For those that haven't taken the time to spend hours a day pouring over information, a 2 hour movie is a good way to sum it up.



I have a problem with people discounting information simply because it appears on the internet. So many times I will show someone a youtube video, and they consider it nonsense sinply because it is on youtube. What they fail to realize is that the internet is a place where information can exist that would normally be censored out by the media conglomerate. While anyone can post any nonsense they want to online, people can also post truths that would normally never see the light of day. This is important to consider whenever you're watching something online, especially with something controversial.



Remember, media corporations are owned by only a handful of individuals, and this very small group of men completely control what their network is and is not allowed to report. If Rupurt Murdoch sends a memo in the morning not to talk about some roadside bombing on Fox News, they do as he says. Those who reach millions online through independant research have no such barriers, and usually have a far less diabolical agenda as well.





-Written by Johnny

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Posted 12:16 AM 2/20/2011

radiobath said:
You're Canadian, you don't count.


Hey now, last I checked Canada was doing a little better than America. Maybe you should take a lesson from us Canucks...



-written by Johnny

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Posted 12:19 AM 2/20/2011

radiobath said:
Do you write to your local politicians about your opinions?


No, not only for the reasons listed before of not liking, trusting, or believing in any of them. But also because if I were to do so I'd be honest about the fact that I'd neither voted for them in the last election, nor would I be voting in the next one. The former fact could've been ignored if they thought they could turn me, the latter fact however makes me a non-factor. The letter of an admitted non-voter (who has no other form of political weight to back their voice) is never going to make it past the staff to the politician themselves. And even if it did, you think any politician is going to take "Stop listening to your constitutents whine and fix the damn system, whatever the cost" seriously?


But I'll tell you what. If there were ever a politician who I *did* truly believe in... Who didn't bother with speechwriters or rehearsing with their staff. Who didn't make sure to say just the right thing in just the right phrasing. Who spoke from a genuine place inside them without a care for how it sounded. Who could make me believe that *they* actually believed it all. That it wasn't just words and a means to an end, to be abandoned when convenient or when the tide turns against them. That they would fight, without hesitation, even if it reached the point where it would cost them their political career and lead to them being shunned from the upper circles of society. Someone who could make me *believe* that they were a true leader, worth following. Who would rise above the *game* of politics. That person I would vote for, whether I felt they stood a chance or not. But I've been paying attention to politics since well before I even had the right to vote. And not one politician, in my district or elsewhere, has ever made me believe that way. Some of them have their moments, but it never lasts.

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Posted 12:23 AM 2/20/2011
I totally heart Pentastic for her last two posts here.
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Posted 12:25 AM 2/20/2011

I'm probably going to majorly flamed here, but I don't care. What does she want, a fucking pat on the back for getting an abortion? Yeah, its legal and I agree in certain circumstances it is understandable, but I don't agree with it or respect a woman who uses abortion as a means of birth control. I realize that not all birth control is going to be effective, sometimes you can use multiple forms and still get pregnant. I guess my point is, a majority of the women getting abortions are being careless. Statistics show that only 1% of abortions occur because of rape or incest, and only 6% occur because of potential health problems. That leaves a whole 93% of abortions occurring because its inconvenient. Now, I don't believe abortion should be illegal, this country was born so we could have freedom of choice, it just sickens me to no end that so many abortions happen because of pure carelessness. Okay, abortion rant over.



I know its going to be hard but, I know that change in politics IS possible. Jill is right, its going to take a lot of new blood in there and guess who gets them in office? We do. So, even if you don't agree with a lot of old fogies, not voting isn't going to do anything to get new people in office.

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Posted 12:28 AM 2/20/2011
why would you get flamed rapture? you're entitled to your opinion and i agree with you about abortion.
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Posted 12:59 AM 2/20/2011

Abortion is a very messy topic. Only after living through certain circumstances and dealing with that pain did I reshape my view on the whole thing. It's something I'm not particularly proud of, and nor should I be, but I can say this: it taught me a lot about myself. Before, I couldn't be bothered to re-consider abortion; all I knew was that it was an easy way out and that I wanted it done. However, the moment it happened, and the time spent afterward reflecting on the situation, there was nothing but guilt and self-disappointment left to linger. Without a doubt, it was my Robert Oppenheimer moment; I was the destroyer of worlds. But it helped me realize that it was something I couldn't endure again. Not only for the sake of myself, but also for the preciousness of another life itself; of which my son is a living testament to.If others need to do it, whether justifiably so or not, that's there prerogative, not mine. Who am I to judge and ridicule, especially since I've been there. All I can take comfort in now is knowing that I will never allow myself to decide the fate of anothers' life, all while trying to make up for my foolish mistake.

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Posted 1:19 AM 2/20/2011
You guys already know what I think about this topic lol
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Posted 11:49 AM 2/20/2011

Rapture said:


I'm probably going to majorly flamed here, but I don't care. What does she want, a fucking pat on the back for getting an abortion? Yeah, its legal and I agree in certain circumstances it is understandable, but I don't agree with it or respect a woman who uses abortion as a means of birth control. I realize that not all birth control is going to be effective, sometimes you can use multiple forms and still get pregnant. I guess my point is, a majority of the women getting abortions are being careless. Statistics show that only 1% of abortions occur because of rape or incest, and only 6% occur because of potential health problems. That leaves a whole 93% of abortions occurring because its inconvenient. Now, I don't believe abortion should be illegal, this country was born so we could have freedom of choice, it just sickens me to no end that so many abortions happen because of pure carelessness. Okay, abortion rant over.


I know its going to be hard but, I know that change in politics IS possible. Jill is right, its going to take a lot of new blood in there and guess who gets them in office? We do. So, even if you don't agree with a lot of old fogies, not voting isn't going to do anything to get new people in office.



She stated she had an abortion because it was medically necessary. She wanted that child, but it would have killed her AND the baby if she kept it. As she said, "I lost a baby." It was not something she wanted to do, and it obviously pains her to this day to be able to bring it up in front of a room full of strangers just to hammer her point into the ground.


Many women are on multiple forms of birth control and still end up getting pregnant, and many more are minors when they get abortions. My mom was 16 when she had an abortion, and she was forced into getting it by her mother. Abortions were illegal back then, so they had to travel to England to get one. My mom still is upset about it, and thinks about how old the child would be now, and what it would be like--what her life would be like.


Abortion should not be a form of birth control. Considering the cost of it, even if you have insurance, it really isn't financially responsible or plausible to use it as one. But there are girls in Japan that are addicted to abortions: intentionally getting pregnant to get multiple abortions. But it's Japan.


And look at how our culture fucking worships teen mothers. There's so many shows devoted to underage girls having babies, the media makes a big deal about 12 year old fathers. I wouldn't be surprised if the number of abortions in this country drop drastically over the next 5 - 10 years because of how teenage mothers should be given a break. You know, because at least they didn't kill their baby.


The whole reason why I posted the video though is because she thoroughly defended Planned Parenthood by not sugar-coating it with some political bullshit. She was honest with her story, she brought up facts, and she gave the ultimate bitchslap at the end. "But would we do the same to you? No, because that would be irresponsible." SHAZAM. Slick burn. The gentleman talking about how abortions were child abuse have absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand, which is, "Should Planned Parenthood receive budget cuts to save our economy?". Instead of doing research to find out that Planned Parenthood provides health care to women who could not normally receive it, he instead attacked a small percentage of women who go there just to get unneccesary abortions. OB/GYN care is incredibly important, and unfortunately, many insurance providers do not cover a lot of procedures and exams. Even annual tests like PAP smears, breast exams, pelvic exams, etc. Planned Parenthood provides this care at little to no cost, regardless of whether you have insurance. They provide it to minors as well, without parental consent, for the sake of privacy.


So ignore the fact it's about abortion and just focus on the fact that for once, a politican managed to speak from the heart.

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Posted 1:09 PM 2/20/2011

They also get shot in front of grocery stores or crash their cars mysteriously.

RockyBoy said:
people in government who try to change government usually end up in plane crashes.

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